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TriTorch's avatar

This is reminiscent of what Yuri Bezmonov taught about how the Soviet Union overthrew countries and expanded their empire. The 4 stages were (we are in stage 2):

Four stages of idealogical subversion: demoralization, destabilization, crisis, normalization

Another way to say it: this is contrived, not organic, and were are being played like puppets at the merriment of psychopaths who own and control both wings of our vulture government.

It is us vs the 1%. That’s always how its been. Every single red and blue voter on the planet has way more in common with each other, and shares way more of the same values with one another, than both of them combined vs the 1% who consider us cattle. They are our predators. We work to enrich them. They feast on our efforts and divide us, while working to replace us with AI, and raining down scorn.

United we stand. Divided we fall. They vulture know this which is why we are being mercilessly divided.

jamenta's avatar
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Also similar is the Brown Shirt Nazi takeover of Germany in the 1930s. At the time, there also was a political party equivalent to the Democratic party we now have: WEAK and CORRUPT. This German party also tried to GET ALONG with the brown shirts - similar to how Neville Chamberlain bowed down to Hitler with treaties of appeasement - as if this was some kind of victory against the obvious growing fascism and the immense German army being built up by the Nazis.

Look, I understand that it is the responsibility of Minnesota and Minneapolis leaders, from Mayors to Governors to tell their constituents to remain peaceful. Not to give Trump's new masked gestapo thugs a reason to escalate themselves - or Trump to have a reason to attempt to enact his Insurrection Act - which he is obviously biting at the bit to do.

But how many more Minnesotans are going to be shot? We've already had 3 shot in the space of a week. How many Americans will be Unconstitutionally searched and Seized without Judicial Warrants, which is against the highest law of the land i.e. the 4th Amendment. How many more Americans will have their necks pressed down by the knees of Masked Men - who could be anyone, who hide themselves from Americans - like no other Law enforcement in the country hide - how many will have epileptic seizures or actually die in the custody of ICE detentions centers like many Americans (legal citizens) already have?

What happens if the Democratic party takes the same course as the Democratic party did in the 1930s to the Brown Shirts marching the streets of Germany - going door-to-door detaining German citizens? What is being done other than just TALKING about the new gestapo secret police - virtue signaling to the American people you're on their side? How many more Americans are going to disappear in the next few weeks because the Democrat party refuses to act forcefully in the name of our US Constitution? Are we really going to make the same fatal mistake the Germans did with the Nazis?

TriTorch's avatar

Yep, they backed us into a damned if you do damned if you don't corner. It's just a formula they've perfected after a century of trial and error. Both sides, police and citizens view each other as the enemy. This did not happen by happy accident. They've been at these mind games a very long time and deeply understand the art of this war.

Our public school eductated (the 1% control the schools) delibrately never had a chance at recognizing this threat, still don't know it exists, and we will crash full-tilt into the brick wall of on the far side of the rubicon long before they figure it out.

Welcome to Murica! Our fate was sealed when they took civics out of the cirriculum.

Greg Vinson's avatar

You vastly overestimate the intelligence and power of the fascist dictatorship. The domestic and foreign policy of the morons are desperate and stupid, and they wildly overestimate their power and reach. They are not going to succeed in duplicating the temporary successes of Hitler.

This dictatorship is not long for this world. Stop acting like they have everything figured out. They have no f*cking clue how it's going to end up, and invading Venezuela was an incredibly stupid mistake, aside from the evil criminality of it. So is threatening 15 different countries all at the same time; the act of a desperate pedophile who knows his days are numbered, and is panicked at the prospect of his disgusting past being exposed.

Dik de Bruijn's avatar

Their intelligence may be overestimated -- their power is not. They can do anything they want now due to their ability to control the DOJ, FBI, SCOTUS, military, etc. And their base loves what ICE is doing. In just a few days, MAGA has raised over $1 million for the ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good. With that kind of support, I'd say their power isn't waning just yet.

Greg Vinson's avatar

Yes their power is being overestimated, and you're buying their bluster. Trump's base is at most 35% of the country. And now he has radicalized most of the remaining majority.

Ultimately all power comes from the working class. But the working class consistently underestimates and therefore gives away the use of their own power. It's up to us whether we want to take it back or not.

jamenta's avatar
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The Insurrection act is a real thing. It's not something made up out of thin air. Trump just needs some - somewhat reasonable excuse to enact the Insurrection act. Including a false flag he and his corrupt administration may concoct on their own (much like Hitler did).

All the pieces are in place: masked men in unmarked cars, detention centers all over the country, normalization of thousands of agents in any city Trump wishes to deploy his goons, complete disregard for local and federal laws, hiring sadists as ICE enforcers ...

All the pieces are in place. Whatcha you going to do when they come for you Greg?

Protect the Vote's avatar

If you believe this you have lost big time

Protect the Vote's avatar

They can't shoot all of us Timothy Snyder talks about courage Everyone of us has to decide at what level they are willing to risk But in the end this is nothing but intimidation to stand back and let Cheeto take over

jamenta's avatar

Well, tbh, I'm not really into being shot - even though they can't shoot us all. But you're right, at some point, people will have to start making the decision of what they're willing to risk to oppose fascism.

John Lucken's avatar

You seem to forget that republicans are the party responsible for enabling Felon 47, not Democrats. It would only take a few republicans to grow a backbone, join with Democrats and stop the Felons Criminal Chaos. We could have avoided this whole mess if republicans had put country over party and voted to impeach the Tyrant. They had two chances. Maybe the third time will be the charm, but I doubt it.

jamenta's avatar
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Apparently you are unaware of "The Ratchet Effect" in politics.

It goes like this: two very corrupted parties, owned by big money - the democratic party and the republican party, dupe Americans into believing they represent them. But instead this is what happens, called the Ratchet effect:

- Democrats Block Movement Back to the Left

- Republicans Then turn everything to the Right

So American politics for the last 4-5 decades has kept on moving to the Right, until we ended up with both corrupt political parties endorsing and supporting an Israeli genocide in GAZA - and how we ended up with Trump today and a fascist state.

Geopolitics in Plain Sight's avatar

Trump invokes the Insurrection Act over Minneapolis ICE protests. Half the country sees enforcement; half sees tyranny. The military now policing civilians over immigration enforcement. This is what institutional collapse looks like: when the executive branch threatens to use military power against citizens, when civil unrest over federal policy becomes a "national emergency" requiring the Insurrection Act. Nobody trusts the institutions meant to protect them. And that fracture—government vs citizens, military vs civilian control—is exactly what foreign powers are reading as America's vulnerability map. A superpower that turns on itself doesn't need an enemy. I mapped how institutional breakdown becomes the real geopolitical weapon:

https://substack.com/@geopoliticsinplainsight/p-184355102

Andrew Mickelson's avatar

THE PIECE OF CRAP, PRESIDENT, WOULD INACT THE INSURRECTION ON JAN 6, 2020, BUT FOR HIS BENEFIT HE WANTS TO DO IT, SUCH A BIG BABY, CHICKEN!!!

Richard France, Ph.D.'s avatar

Trump's I.C.E. goons are to present-day America what Hitler's S.A. was to Hitler: state-sponsored thuggery.

jamenta's avatar

The parallels are hair raising.

Beulah Prosser's avatar

ICE needs to be marked. I don’t think a lot of them want to be identified as ICE. Somehow, their skin should be marked with bright, permanent “paint.” The delivery method has to be easy and subtle. Yes, it is dangerous but at this point, everything is.

Angie's avatar

Trump wants violence and I'm afraid he'll get it because no one is FUCKING HELPING US!

Lance Hall's avatar

Protesters could use some help from the local fire department, hose those buggers down!

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DEANN MARIN's avatar

I know this is off subject for this post, but it’s something about the Epstein files that is appalling and I need to share so everyone sees it.

https://lisevoldeng.substack.com/p/dont-worry-boys-are-hard-to-find

Protect the Vote's avatar

Invoking The Insurrection Act Does NOT Prevent Peaceful Protests

Cheeto the malgnant narcissist bully strongman believes he will intimidate people from protessting Invoking the act does NOT stop people exercising their first amendment rights

jamenta's avatar

Well if a man with a gun over there - is about to shoot you. It's certainly going to curtail many from practicing their first amendment rights. Let's be real.

Protect the Vote's avatar

Everybody has their level....if uncomfortable then don't protest Find other ways to protest ie calling congress people, attending Indivisible meetings etc etc But it's all about intimidation....case in point a ICE goon said to a protester "y'all didn't learn from Renee Good did ya?"

Dik de Bruijn's avatar

Maybe if the ICE Nazis supported WH policy by going on the $3/meal diet recommended by the Ag Secretary, they wouldn't have the strength to brutalize ordinary Americans.

Susan Lionheart's avatar

I hope trump and Vance get killed

mm@64's avatar

No, for 2 reasons-

1) then we get Mike Johnson, and from there I believe its Senator Grassy..and gawd-forbid, Rubio is in there..

2) we are way better than that, *she says nodding heading understanding the why in this statement yet silently hoping for some kind of end to the madness*

jamenta's avatar

Via TYT: Veteran Reacts to ICE Violence and Makes a Jaw-Dropping Comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccK7BnXHBNQ

menehune's avatar

Aloha. On the ONE FINGER COCONUT WIRELESS. ...............................................................

Madannie's avatar

FFS, here's the deal about this piggy BS. he IS THE ONLY ANAL PORE CREATING THE DANGER IN THIS COUNTRY! his hired thugs are illegally attacking and assaulting random folks for NO F'ing reason. SO IF THERE SHOULD BE ANY insurrection declarations THEY SHOULD SOLELY be based on his idiotic, paranoid, ILLEGAL DECLARATIONS. Arrest, indict, try and IMPRISON THIS mad man.

Miriam Kearney's avatar

The woman you interviewed who talked about being pepper-sprayed. She had the right idea. To stand there and be silent would be to not be afraid. That would be the most powerful thing anyone could do. Any time you have a chance to tell people about it, it would be a good thing to do. I know it feels good to yell things, especially nasty things, at people who are really nasty. But it's not what makes your presence strong.

jamenta's avatar

What is strong is the US Constitution. That document is what this country is founded on.

What is strong is the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution. The very 1st Amendment.